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  Manchester First Meet Up Group !

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  hi guys ,i have a new meet up group for all mancunian faders and d/f ,i'm trying to organise a meetup before christmas .if you are from manchester or know someone on this forum from manchester ,let me know and will pm group's address.... manchester ,united kingdom.

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  Rob Crompton: you can also email me on [email protected] for the meetup' address
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  Manchester First Meet Up Group !

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  hi guys ,i have a new meet up group for all mancunian faders and d/f ,i'm trying to organise a meetup before christmas .if you are from manchester or know someone on this forum from manchester ,let me know and will pm group's address.... manchester ,united kingdom.

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  Lozhasleft ,I send you a pm with the Meet Up group's web address ,please sign up and I will keep you posted with the upcoming meetings .Meetup unlike Facebook is not open to everyone and better for privacy .Please let me know that you got my pm ,or email me on [email protected]
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  Manchester First Meet Up Group !

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  hi guys ,i have a new meet up group for all mancunian faders and d/f ,i'm trying to organise a meetup before christmas .if you are from manchester or know someone on this forum from manchester ,let me know and will pm group's address.... manchester ,united kingdom.

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  Hi Rob ,you have a pm ,let me know that you received it
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  Manchester First Meet Up Group !

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  hi guys ,i have a new meet up group for all mancunian faders and d/f ,i'm trying to organise a meetup before christmas .if you are from manchester or know someone on this forum from manchester ,let me know and will pm group's address.... manchester ,united kingdom.

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  Hi guys ,I have a new MEET UP group for all Mancunian faders and d/f ,I'm trying to organise a meetup before Christmas .If you are from Manchester or know someone on this forum from Manchester ,let me know and will pm group's address...

  Manchester ,United Kingdom
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  Manchester First Meet Up Group !

  by raymond frantz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  calling all manchester,united kingdom faders ,disfellowshiped there is a new meet up group for manchester ,let me know if you're interested to join in and i will pm you the meetup group address ,also if you want to meet before christmas and best day to meet .. i will try to set a night to meet before christmas if i get a few coming let me know ....

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  Calling all Manchester,United Kingdom faders ,disfellowshiped there is a new meet up group for Manchester ,let me know if you're interested to join in and I will pm you the MeetUp group address ,also if you want to meet before Christmas and best day to meet .

  I will try to set a night to meet before Christmas if I get a few coming let me know ...
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  Baptismal Questions CHANGE AGAIN!

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i attended recently a circuit assembly and notice a change in the wording of the 2nd baptismal question .it used to be :.

  "do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of jehovah's witnesses in association with god's spirit-directed organization?

  now they changed it to :.

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  http://www.jwstruggle.com/2012/11/questions-about-our-baptism/
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  Baptismal Questions CHANGE AGAIN!

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i attended recently a circuit assembly and notice a change in the wording of the 2nd baptismal question .it used to be :.

  "do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of jehovah's witnesses in association with god's spirit-directed organization?

  now they changed it to :.

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  I didn't posted this as I wanted to be sure about it ,but I saw another poster on jwstruggle mentioning it .It can't be a coinsidence ?Can it be?
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  Baptismal Questions CHANGE AGAIN!

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i attended recently a circuit assembly and notice a change in the wording of the 2nd baptismal question .it used to be :.

  "do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of jehovah's witnesses in association with god's spirit-directed organization?

  now they changed it to :.

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  I attended recently a circuit assembly and notice a change in the wording of the 2nd baptismal question .It used to be :

  "Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization? "

  Now they changed it to :

  "Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with His spirit anointed association?"

  The "spirit-directed " has become "spirit -anointed"

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  "the organization" has become "association"

  Has any one else notice the changes ?Why do you think they changed it again?
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  ELDER'S HANDBOOK

  by The Searcher in

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  2. bible

  can anyone provide a link for the pdf of the current 'shepherding' book?

  thanks for any help!.

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  http://www.2shared.com/document/x__mMOqj/Shepherd_The_Flock_of_God.html
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  WT Elders school: Look how cute that kindly old elder is! Too bad the Talmud says we have to stone our victim anyway

  by sir82 in

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  2. friends

  more haphazard thougths on the recently concluded elder school..... a big chunk of time was spent on a video which traced a judicial case, all the way from the confession to the elders through the decision to disfellowship the guy.. here is a very brief synopsis of the video:.

  tearful late-teen or early-20's publisher confesses to 2 elders that he committed fornication with a "worldly girl" who is now preganant and wants to marry him.

  the elders give him some "homework" to do prior to his judcial committee - read psalm 51 and an old wt article.

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  they send a strong message with this video :the old elder represents the older generation of elders that could still use their judgement and trained Christian conscience to reach a desicion ,the young elders represents the new generation of elder that go by the book ,not the Bible ,but the modern "Talmud" as the Pharishees did .No more Bible trained conscience ,no more critical thinking ONLY mechanicanical unloving bastards .This means war ! In every sence ,everything we loved and cared as Witnesses are being destroyed from these 9 morons in New York .They truly are the "wicked slave" prophesied in Matthew